{"id":3399,"date":"2018-10-20T21:20:12","date_gmt":"2018-10-20T18:20:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gcosbuc.ro\/revista\/?p=3399"},"modified":"2024-01-31T23:50:27","modified_gmt":"2024-01-31T20:50:27","slug":"interviu-cu-eva-mozes-kor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/taitung.eu\/index.php\/interviu-cu-eva-mozes-kor\/","title":{"rendered":"Interviu cu Eva Mozes Kor"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Cu ocazia Zilei Na\u021bionale a Comemor\u0103rii Holocaustului, unul dintre supravie\u021buitorii experimentelor lui Mengele, Eva Mozes Kor, a vizitat \u0219coala noastr\u0103. Primul lucru pe care l-a f\u0103cut \u00een momentul \u00een care a intrat \u00een \u00eenc\u0103pere, a fost s\u0103 spun\u0103 z\u00e2mbind <\/strong>\u201e<\/strong>\u0218i eu am fost elev\u0103 aici\u201d. <\/strong>Privind-o \u0219i sim\u021bind c\u0103ldura \u0219i bun\u0103tatea pe care o eman\u0103, nu puteai s\u0103 concepi c\u0103 la v\u00e2rsta de 11 ani, aceea\u0219i Eva Mozes Kor, care st\u0103 acum \u00een fa\u021ba ta \u0219i face glume, a fost supus\u0103 la ni\u0219te chinuri de neimaginat \u00eentr-o lume civilizat\u0103 de c\u0103tre doctorul Josef Mengele.<\/strong>
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De\u0219i obosit\u0103, a acceptat s\u0103 ne vorbeasc\u0103 despre ceea ce a \u00eensemnat Auschwitz pentru ea \u0219i sora sa geam\u0103n\u0103, despre via\u021b\u0103 \u0219i despre experien\u021ba ei la Liceul de fete \u201eRegina Maria\u201d <\/em>actualul nostru colegiu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n


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Spune\u021bi-ne unul dintre lucrurile care v\u0103 f\u0103ceau fericit\u0103 \u00een perioada copil\u0103riei?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dup\u0103 cum am spus, a trebuit s\u0103 muncesc foarte mult pentru a \u00eenv\u0103\u021ba rom\u00e2na, pentru c\u0103 eu \u0219tiam doar maghiar\u0103 \u0219i pu\u021bin\u0103 rom\u00e2n\u0103 \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat\u0103 de la \u021b\u0103ranii de la ferma noastr\u0103. Am amintiri pl\u0103cute de atunci c\u00e2nd am reu\u0219it, \u00een sf\u00e2r\u0219it, s\u0103 vorbesc bine limba \u0219i s\u0103 iau note bune, 9 sau chiar 10.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Fiind dup\u0103 r\u0103zboi, \u0219tiam c\u0103 studiile sunt tot ceea ce mi-au r\u0103mas, a\u0219a c\u0103 trebuia s\u0103 \u0219tiu bine limba oficial\u0103 pentru c\u0103 viitorul meu depindea de asta. Era foarte stresant aici. Eu \u0219i sora mea, Miriam, ne bucuram atunci c\u00e2nd reu\u0219eam s\u0103 fim acceptate.<\/em>
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Dup\u0103 deportarea la Auschwitz, v\u0103 aminti\u021bi de prima dumneavoastr\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2lnire cu doctorul Mengele?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen prima zi dup\u0103 ce am ajuns \u00een Auschwitz, Mengele a venit diminea\u021b\u0103 \u00een baraca unde st\u0103team noi cu mul\u021bi al\u021bi oameni din anturajul lui \u0219i ne-a num\u0103rat pentru c\u0103 voia s\u0103 \u0219tie c\u00e2\u021bi cobai avea \u00een acea zi. El nu vorbea cu gemenii, nu ne considera fiin\u021be umane. Vorbea doar despre noi. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00cen acea zi, pe un pat, era un copil mort. El era foarte, foarte nervos \u0219i striga la ceilal\u021bi oameni care se ocupau de bar\u0103ci, \u00eentreb\u00e2ndu-i de ce au l\u0103sat un copil s\u0103 moar\u0103. Mie nu mi se p\u0103rea un lucru at\u00e2t de mare pentru c\u0103 \u0219tiam c\u0103 oamenii mor tot timpul acolo, dar am aflat mai t\u00e2rziu, c\u0103, dac\u0103 un geam\u0103n murea, el pierdea unul dintre subiec\u021bii experimentelor sale.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Vreau ca lumea s\u0103 \u0219tie c\u0103 eu nu cred c\u0103 Mengele era un monstru. El era un bun nazist, un bun german, dar un doctor \u0219i un om r\u0103u. El f\u0103cea ce \u00eei spuneau al\u021bii s\u0103 fac\u0103, respecta ordinele. Eu cred c\u0103 era doar un om meschin \u0219i nervos. Nu l-am v\u0103zut niciodat\u0103 fericit, era tot timpul serios \u0219i striga.<\/em>
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Ce sentimente v-au \u00eencercat \u00een momentul \u00een care a\u021bi realizat c\u0103 Auschwitz-ul a fost eliberat?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Doar realiz\u00e2nd faptul c\u0103 oamenii nu tr\u0103geau \u00een tine sau nu voiau s\u0103 te omoare era o senza\u021bie de eliberare. Prima noapte dup\u0103 eliberare, nazi\u0219tii au plecat \u0219i noi ie\u0219eam \u0219i intram \u00een lag\u0103r, doar pentru a vedea cum e s\u0103 nu trag\u0103 nimeni \u00een noi, era un lucru nou pe care \u00eel puteam face.<\/em>
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V-au influen\u021bat mai t\u00e2rziu, \u00een via\u021b\u0103, lucrurile pe care le-a\u021bi experimentat la Auschwitz?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

La Auschwitz, am \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat un lucru: trebuie tot timpul s\u0103 \u00eencerc\u0103m s\u0103 ne \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021bim via\u021ba, de\u0219i nu \u0219tim cum, pentru c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 nicio carte cu reguli scrise pentru asta. Trebuie s\u0103 ne d\u0103m seama singuri cum s\u0103 o facem. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

A fost o lec\u021bie important\u0103, care \u0219i acum m\u0103 ajut\u0103, fiind adult \u0219i locuind \u00een SUA. Nu exist\u0103 r\u0103spunsuri la toate \u00eentreb\u0103rile mele \u0219i solu\u021bii la toate problemele pe care le am, a\u0219a c\u0103, trebuie s\u0103 \u00eemi dau eu seama cum s\u0103 le rezolv.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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    A\u021bi perceput schimbarea regimului politic din Rom\u00e2nia \u00een anul 1947?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Ei bine, dintr-o dat\u0103 totul s-a schimbat. Din ceea ce \u00eemi amintesc eu, un steag a fost dat jos aici, undeva, \u00een pia\u021ba de l\u00e2ng\u0103 biseric\u0103, iar altul nou a fost ridicat. Ei spuneau c\u0103 regatul e mort \u0219i tr\u0103iasc\u0103 republica. Nu \u0219tiam \u0219i nu \u00een\u021belegeam prea multe despre asta, credeam c\u0103, poate, la fiecare doi, trei ani, ceva m\u0103re\u021b se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103; credeam c\u0103 a\u0219a e via\u021ba. Nimeni nu \u0219tia nimic despre comunism \u0219i nu aveam pe cine s\u0103 \u00eentreb\u0103m. Comuni\u0219tii \u0219i-au impus regulile foarte prompt, s-au mi\u0219cat la fel de repede ca nazi\u0219tii. Am realizat brusc c\u0103 nu puteam merge undeva f\u0103r\u0103 permisiune special\u0103, nu puteam s\u0103 c\u0103l\u0103torim \u0219i trebuia s\u0103 ne \u00eenregistr\u0103m tot timpul. Dac\u0103 erai bogat, cum am fost noi, evreii, \u00eenainte de r\u0103zboi, erai imediat persecutat. M\u0103tu\u0219a mea a sc\u0103pat de investiga\u021bii pentru c\u0103 era v\u0103duv\u0103 de r\u0103zboi, iar noi, pentru c\u0103 eram orfane, dar unchiul meu, b\u0103rbatul cu care s-a c\u0103s\u0103torit m\u0103tu\u0219a dup\u0103 r\u0103zboi, a fost interogat \u0219i a intrat \u00een \u00eenchisoare. Deci, te sim\u021beai imediat speriat pentru c\u0103 oamenii disp\u0103reau \u0219i nu \u0219tiai cum, unde \u0219i de ce sau dac\u0103 erau vii sau mor\u021bi. <\/em>
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    Av\u00e2nd \u00een vedere c\u0103 \u0219coala noastr\u0103 s\u0103rb\u0103tore\u0219te centenarul anul viitor, ce sfat a\u021bi avea pentru elevii care studiaz\u0103 la aceea\u0219i \u0219coal\u0103 ca dumneavoastr\u0103?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

    \u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, vreau s\u0103 felicit \u0219coala pentru c\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103 exist\u0103 \u0219i \u0219i-a p\u0103strat un nivel ridicat al \u00eenv\u0103\u021b\u0103m\u00e2ntului. Sfatul meu pentru elevi este s\u0103 \u00eenve\u021be pentru c\u0103, odat\u0103 ce ai \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat cum s\u0103 \u00eenve\u021bi, nu vei uita niciodat\u0103. Eu aici am \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat cum s\u0103 \u00eenv\u0103\u021b \u0219i s\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc, a\u0219a c\u0103 felicit\u0103ri pentru s\u0103rb\u0103torirea a 100 de ani.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

    La final, Eva ne-a l\u0103sat cu ni\u0219te lec\u021bii de via\u021b\u0103 pe care le-a \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat de-a lungul timpului prin toat\u0103 durerea \u0219i toate lucrurile la care a fost supus\u0103. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

    1. Nu te da b\u0103tut niciodat\u0103 sau nu \u00ee\u021bi abandona visele pentru c\u0103, orice este bun este posibil.<\/strong><\/li>
    2. \u00cen viata, nu judeca oamenii dup\u0103 vorbe, ci dup\u0103 ac\u021biunile \u0219i caracterul lor.<\/strong><\/li>
    3. Iart\u0103-\u021bi du\u0219manul cel mai r\u0103u \u0219i pe oricine te-a r\u0103nit pentru c\u0103 \u00ee\u021bi va vindeca sufletul \u0219i te va elibera.<\/strong><\/li><\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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Privind-o \u0219i sim\u021bind c\u0103ldura \u0219i bun\u0103tatea pe care o eman\u0103,…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":3402,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1307,1304],"tags":[225,411,464,227,38,463],"class_list":["post-3399","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-prin-istorie","category-prin-lume","tag-auschwitz","tag-cosbuc","tag-eva-mozes-kor","tag-holocaust","tag-interviu","tag-nazism"],"yoast_head":"\nInterviu cu Eva Mozes Kor<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Cu ocazia Zilei Na\u021bionale a Comemor\u0103rii Holocaustului, unul dintre supravie\u021buitorii experimentelor lui Mengele, Eva Mozes Kor, a vizitat \u0219coala noastr\u0103. 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